| Sex video of "Fatima students" leaked on Facebook | | Print | |
| Written by Kerry Peters—April 24, 2010 |
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BREAKING NEWS— A sex video in which two young males appear to be wearing the uniform of Fatima College, is now making the rounds on Facebook and so popular is the 13-minute video clip that several other facebook pages bashing the school and its students were racking up hundreds of members up to late Saturday (today) evening. A short while ago a copy of the video was obtained by The Student Press, clearly showing two young males, possibly students, engaging in oral sex, with a third person recording the video. The boys in the video appear young and may possibly be in Form 2 or 3. It is unclear where the video was shot or by whom, but based on background noise and objects such as chairs and fixtures which appear in parts of the video, there is reason to believe the video was made at a school. Several students have responded by posting blatant and often obscene comments on the facebook groups, most of them decrying the sexual acts. This is just the latest in a series of sometimes raunchy videos depicting students engaging in sexual acts which are posted to the popular social networking site. A few months ago, another video showed two girls kissing mouth to mouth and wearing the uniform of El Dorado East Secondary. Add to this a horrifying number of videos of students fighting in and out of school which have also been posted on Facebook. Speaking on condition of anonymity, a teacher at a secondary school in Port-of-Spain who saw the sex clip, linked the video to the recent debate surrounding the establishment of same-sex schools: "It is true — very true — that same-sex schools have problems of their own, problems of a different nature. We may hence create more problems than we can handle with the mass creation of more of such schools. We must not be fooled into thinking all is well ... not at all." The latest sex video is also raising fears among parents even about the safety of Facebook for their children. Neither Elton Wickam, Communications Manager at the Ministry of Education nor Rory Subiah his assistant could be reached for a comment on the matter and calls to the mobile phone of Steve Williams, head of the ministry's Student Support Division also went unanswered.
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Wow isn't that suprising...NOT
written by Hyperactiv , April 25, 2010 Everyone too busy or distracted by the fights and sex scandals of heterosexuals that surface in mixed schools (not saying that they aren't important as well) but they always over looked) but they assume that homosexuality and lesbianism would not occur that "all is well" , well guess what? its not and it is now splashed all over media so that viewers can see, rate and comment. They took so long to act upon it that it just had blown out of proportion and i hope this would be the start of fixing the issue that are left off as "jokes" or "minor" matters
burning fire, burning flame
written by Fatima , April 25, 2010 I ain't bringin no negativity eh, but them cyar be on that, and then again them want to bring that same sex school act inito play? rel folly
sad
written by Sinece , April 25, 2010 this video rel sad!!! wat d hell wrong with them? i mean seriously? if u like man daz ur bizz them have to make a video to?? and expect it nuh tuh get posted? oh plzz! and worse dey goin a boy skwl and a vey good one to! i kno how much prestigious skwls like to keep dey name clean i get it frm mine all d time! dey cud get expelled for dat! this real sad it not even funny
oh boy..literally
written by carlos , April 25, 2010 its okay to voice opinions on LGBT but to video record, post the video and it was in a school uniform.....its just wrong...keep it personal..not to the world!
They sure dey wanna style have same sex skools
written by nak nak , April 25, 2010 this situation should be an eye opener for the minister of education situations like this should also be on the news because i sure if this did happen in EL DORADO WEST OR EAST SECONDARY it would have been breakin news or on d front page of every papers Not because its Fatima u should cover up d name of d skool just how d media made ah name for eldo east n west they should do d same for fatima because at d end of d day when dey speak bout eldo its d entire skool dey speak bout they say "dem eldo children is d worst" so they should now talk bout the kind of unacceptable behaviours n sexual act the children of fatima engagin in n dont cover up for the name of d skool because the students may come from homes where there father is d owner of here n there n because d minister of watever might be there mother or fadda or because there mother is ah lawyer treat every one n every skool d same because these problems dont just take place in fatima alone IT TAKES PLACE IN ALLLLLLL THE SAME SEX SKOOL NOT ONLY IN TRINIDAD BUT IN ALL SAME SEX SKOOL ALL OVER THE WORLD so miss esther take this as ah eye opener to wat might just happen when u place more skools as same sex skool
Everyone needs to stop this
written by A.Charles , April 25, 2010 Wow.....i mean....it was idiotic that the action was actually filmed in the FIRST place...and worst that they were in their uniforms but why are people verbally attacking them. And the school....as if all the guys from fatima are like that. Come on, there are obviously known homosexuals in Trinidad & Tobago....duh. So stop bashing them because their lifestyle is different from yours....they are still human beings. I honestly feel bad for the guys, especially the one that got blasted with his full name tagged on the video. That was uncalled for...his whole life is messed up now.
Correction
written by mak , April 25, 2010 @ nak nak...It occurs in ALL schools not just same-sex institutions. Just because it hasn't been videotaped and publicized like this latest debacle doesn't mean it is absent.
No....
written by A.Charles , April 25, 2010 But......these guys weren't thinking at ALL. Repeat after me, TAKING NAKED PICS ARE BAD. SENDING NAKED PICS OVER THE NET IS BAD. VIDEO-TAPPING SEXUAL ACTIVITY (in your uniform)IS WORSE!!!
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written by Roxanne , April 25, 2010 omg! this is so disturing.. you know...and for it to be boys who are engaging in oral sex.. its really disturbing.. when i read this i was like.. wow you cannot be serious..i am really truly sorry for the parents and what they might be going through.. the hurt they feel in their hearts to know that their children are gay..and for the person who video tapped this, shame on you!!!!
WoW ....O.o
written by GhOsT , April 25, 2010 wow this just shows that All Fatima students clearly are gay ...
This is stupid...
written by Celly , April 25, 2010 The fact remains that it is not the school that your child has been sent too that determines his sexual orientation so this should not affect the decision to change the mixed schools to same sex schools...I went to all girl schools ALL my life from Primary to secondary and I love boys and have NO desire to engage in sex with a FEMALE...NONE...however I value the education that I recieved at the all girl institution that I may not have had at a mixed institution...It does not matter whether you send your child to a mixed school or a single sex school if he likes boys...He LIKES boys...full stop...You cannot deny that single sex schools do have higher success rates...so lets weigh the should we sacrifice higher success rates because of two stupid little boys whom are probably in the minority...If the ministry were to rethink their move because of this incident they would be very foolish!!! However this is scary because it seems like ur children are not safe anywhere...I have a little brother and I fear for him and even or th lives of these boys this must be addressed...This should not be swept under the carpet this is news and election time seems like the perfect time to address these issues!!!!
how could teens be so disgusting??!!
written by J_m_s , April 25, 2010 Come on ppl!!Have some self-respect!! I mean,honestly,what do they get from doing such things? The worst part is that they posted it on facebook!! I can't fully understand why people do these things....is it that they can't control themselves? need attention? well...here is a piece of advice for you...GET SOME HELP!!!!
I am appalled yes but...
written by Fei Wiltshire-Fudge , April 25, 2010 ... I go to a same sex school, and just the other day I was accused of kissing a girl when we were alone in the Language Lab. Of course I wasn't but to the girls who were looking in, it definitely looked that way. In a way it was partly my fault because i had known for a while that she was bisexual and she told me herself that she had a perversed attraction to me but i didn't exactly stop being friends with her so when she came on to me that day I didnt push her away hard enuff because part of me wanted to know what it felt like and then the majority in me was too shocked because i didnt think she would b so daring as to come unto me...and yes i realize i have just confessed but what the heck, i just got to move on and i really feel sorry for these guys because i was once in their position.
WHOA!
written by D.S , April 25, 2010 That is just sad. I mean honestly I see no problem with being gay, lesbian, confused, bi curious or anything of the sort but something I learned, keep things like that private in a world where things are not accepted with ease. What you do with another person sexually should be kept behind closed doors in the privacy of your life and that persons life. Not advertised all over the world. This is something I've learnt from making my own mistakes in life and that's why I can say it. Pictures, videos anything in between are not needed. Nothing is private in the world you can take things in the heat of the moment, in other words as a joke but other people would never understand. If someone can hack your personal computer and get your data then nothing is safe which is why the easiest thing to do is to not do it at all. I have NOTHING against gay people and I pity all gay people right now BECAUSE of this scandal. But while we on this with schools. What about student teacher relationships? I know it's a touchy topic but something was brought to my attention recently and it is sad to know how low some students would go or how low teachers would go. Honestly this country is getting out of control where sex is concerened.
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written by cmugrad , April 25, 2010 Sorry, but to even link the prevalence of homosexuality to attending a single-sex school is unfounded and shows a real lack of thought. One has nothing to do with the other. I mean, take a few seconds and think about it. If you are a homosexual teen who goes to a co-ed school, aren't there still students of the same sex at a mixed school with whom you could pursue relationships? So...what really is the link between homosexuality and single-sex schools? There are homosexual adolescents in every school. Furthermore as for those who think that it should be kept private, there are few things on TV and in movies that are not sexual in nature. There is a double standard. Everything we are exposed to in the media is sexual, yet we expect our teens not to be sexual or capture their sexuality on film?
Disgusting
written by De borse , April 25, 2010 This is reprehensible and gives boys' schools a worse name than they already had. Homosexuality is both illegal and immoral and thus every consequence is deserved. However, I maintain violence should not be advocated. As a student of a boys' school, I realise that the social problem in Trinidad and Tobago is growing worse.
Not surprising
written by Straight up girly , April 25, 2010 It has been hidden by same sex schools for many years, i went to a same sex(all girls) so called prestige school, and it was prevalent for the five years i attended, however it was never made an issue, it instead began a culture which i had to stay far away from(because of my own beliefs and values).... It's not surprising now to see the unfortunate results of no action taken earlier by teachers or students.... Some little idiots who obviously have absolutely no sense of shame, and no restriction took it upon themselves to record this video and post on the Makko-book.... Now lets all stand back and watch the blame game begin.... i blame the school's authority, and the stupid students, because to me, they are all at fault.... the school for not taking the necessary precautions like monitoring cell phones(aren't camera phones banned in schools?) and the students for being so stupid....
steups
written by dan , April 25, 2010 did these %^&* not learn anything from the whole anya incident?? taping sexual acts is nothing less than complete and absolute idiocy! Its also retarded that some would say same-sex skools "make" ppl homosexual. Schools are barely even able to control our behaviour and ability to learn, so i refuse to believe that any school environment can make sum1 gay. Its quite absurd to think every same-sex school student is homosexual, because honestly, anyone could go to one of those skools. I actually know quite a few gay ppl that came out of co-ed skools, kinda like those eldo girls from that vid. i really dont care what these kids are allowed to do in skool these days skool administration cannot control what they do or when they do it. i also dont care about any backlash those kids would receive. they deserve everything they get. i only feel sorry for the distraught parents of these students and the other students of that skool who now have less pride in their uniform because of these idiots and the other fools that would be only to eager to paint them with the same brush
keep in mind...
written by Leann Gill , April 25, 2010 lets try to remember that the issue here is not homosexuality, it is however, students engaging in sexual acts in uniform and on school compound as well as distributing child pornograghy. These boys are obviously disturbed and instead of bashing them with terms like "faggot," as a society we should do what we can to help the boys and stop the distribution of the video and report groups on facebook which are offensive to Fatima and their students.
LOL LOL LMAO What Is In The Dark Comes To Light
written by Lois Lezama , April 25, 2010 Well this just goes to show what so called "prestigious" high school have going for them...lol lol lmao. and people does wanna bash government run school well someone finally let the cat out the bag. BOOM!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Ignorant People
written by Saud , April 25, 2010 Being gay has nothing to do with attending a same-sex school. Do you realize that all the prestige schools are same-sex? ALL! They aren't known for fights with other schools or having babies at 16, they're known for scholarships and success. Should they be victimized because they excelled at school? So what you're surrounded by the same sex and that increases your chances of being gay? That literally makes no sense! Videos are being made weekly from schools in the east and i'm telling you is have men in Arima selling them as DVDs! But thas not a big scene right? These fellas gay so let's stone them and beat them. Why does it bother you if someone else is gay? Fatima men shouldn't be ashamed because in my eyes and the eyes of many others, they're still a prestigious school with just about the best football team and swimming team in the country.
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written by qrcstudent , April 25, 2010 yeah im a QRC student and my firend told me that it was 2 fellas from his class in form 3 that were in the video and that they did infact get suspended
they disgusting
written by SYDM , April 25, 2010 I want this report to reach the national news cast cause them boys behaviour is very disgusting!!!
Dem Men cyah bein so
written by Mari , April 25, 2010 Dem men cyah be gettin on so dat is rel non sense and posted it on facebook where everybody sees dese tings nah dat is high class %$it and it is fatima no so body will kno about it if it was south east or tranqeil evrybody wud of known bout it
people be sensitive
written by K-Star , April 25, 2010 reading some of the comments on this... this act between both boys are truly despicable, however it is NOT because they go to the same sex school... as one person commented... it happens in ALL schools... not to bash co-ed schools but some of these same sex schools are the best in the country and because these boys did an act that would taint and tarnish their school's reputation, it does not mean that putting more same sex schools would result in the very same acts as these... what these boys need right now is prayer that their future isn't as horrible as we make it out to be... do you not know that your words can literally kill these boys?? listen, if you CANNOT say it to their face in person, then it is best you dont say it at all... people feel and think that they are the angels in our country when in reality they did acts probably worse than those boys except they werent as stupid as those boys to tape it. what i am trying to get to is that having same sex school has its disadvantages just as its advantages... those who dwell on the evils of this world and feed on it for their entertainment and enjoyment isnt any different from those committing the evil. all I can do is pray for them and their parents...
form a girl's point of veiw taht's a complete turn off!!...parents must be asheamed!
written by Tffany , April 25, 2010 i swear this is sooo disgusting n chupid! like dey dotish or werent tinkin??? ok if ur gay or not thats ur business n ur life 2 live but dont be soo stupid n do tings like that, they gonna get lixx n prob ppl who r they frens mite get reeel hell...i cant believe that they did that n also video tapyed it, obivously if a camera is around ppl bound 2 see it, na man tink be4 u act!
facts
written by A FATIMA STUDENT , April 25, 2010 I saw the video.. and i think Kerry Peters should learn how to write a better article. There is no proof that there was a third party recording, in fact camera angles indicate that the second party was also the recorder. if u disagree then the word used is 'appeared' to have a third party. Also careful examination of the video shows that it was shot in a bathroom, not on a chair. well done realising it was shot in school though. Now i am not even ashamed of sayin that i am a fatima student, and hence the reason why i think details should be important as it is such a sensitive issue. What i really would like to bring across to the public however, is that the act of two young fatima boys doesnt represent the entire student body of fatima. Regardless, this video will result in certain persons attempting to bring down the name of Fatima College which will take a lot more than a mere video to bring down. We are still a top of the line school, easily one of the best in the country producing all round, intelligent individuals. What I am saying is that no matter what one or two students may do while representing Fatima, it should never be looked upon as something the entire school engages in. Now and even after this has blown over, Fatima will still remain a high class institution and i dare you to find anyone who would disagree. Anyone sensible.
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written by cris , April 25, 2010 sexual experimentation is normal. Even if these boys are gay thats not a problem. They are gay because they were born like that, not because they attend a same sex school. The ignorance of that statement by that teacher from Port of Spain is disgusting. He should be fired for such stupidity.
Stick to the Topic!!!
written by Neka , April 25, 2010 For a reporter your headline is FATIMA...how can one speak about El Dorado East..... Dont bring the Government School into this specific topic... STICK TO THE PRESTIGE SCHOOL....If the headline was "Sexuality among teens in schools across Trinidad" or whatever...you know what I mean!KERRY PETERS..THIS ARTICLE **SMH**
These young men need healing, not hate
written by Colin , April 25, 2010 I'm not sure why having gay students or students who have sex in school is such a stain on Fatima's reputation. It's probably still the school I would send my boys to; but I'll have to wait and see how it treats these two young men who made a terrible mistake, and whether it allows them to redeem their lives. We need to be careful not to engage in another Dana Alleyne feeding frenzy of self-righteousness and make these young men's lives a further hell than they've already made it for themselves. Prestige school students have been having sex in school since before I attended one in the 1970s. We just didn't have the ability to film it. Mind you, having sex in school, filming it, and doing so in uniform are all not really smart things or healthy things for young people's sexual and personal development. And because it's gay sex, the graphic images elicit an exponentially higher level of stigma than a heterosexual video would. How do we help these young men take back their lives, heal, learn lessons, grow through whatever immaturity or neediness led to such a stupid act? Grow up to be self-respecting, self-assured and sexually healthy gay men, as it seems they are? What do they need from our Ministry of Education? from Fatima? At a minimum, they need us to take all the videos and links down, erase them from our hard drives. They need us to reexamine why we are spending so much time and energy on destroying two teenagers instead of doing something more productive for young people. This is tougher for no one than them, but it's tough for their families, who also need support and the right pastoral care in order to be able to support them in healing ways.
This is BIGGER than it seems.
written by Miss Leading , April 25, 2010 This entire situation is "touchy"/sensitive. Every justification made for the actions of those boys and the action of the creator of that page on fb, ultimately leads to a very fragile dispute. However, it must be addressed. FATIMA STUDENT, are you genuinely concerned about the well-being of these boys? Or is your EGO threatening to wreak some sort of havoc in the form of an inferior complex, to which you believe you must insult the writer of this article (and I'm still wondering what you got from that), to prove that Fatima College will need more than a "mere video" to be 'taken down'. SAD! Before the issue of homosexuality is attended to, let's ALL pay attention to the fact that on more than one occasion, videos and images of students, particularly teens, have been leaked. Whether they have engaged in these acts by force or with willingness, Trinidad and Tobago seems to be threatened by a digital plague that acts as an incurable disease and it needs to - it must, be cured. In no way do I view this article as an avenue to bash the reputation of Fatima College. Preferably I see it as a method of stressing how important it is to use your brain and to remind the youth (as we do need to be) that there are consequences for your actions. Did you not see the man (the writer of this article) make reference to another school that had a similar situation occur? So where do you get off on making this a personal thing. Fatima College is one of the most prestigious schools in Trinidad. It's also a school, I presume, with many brilliant young men. Though this unfortunate act threatens the legitimacy of that statement. I stand by it. So before you play victim and "dare" people to do unnecessary things, please open your mind, see the bigger picture and show us ALL like the Fatima student you claim to be, how celebrated you boys are. Don't stick your head in the sand. Don't you know it's an ignorant method of self defence?
Response to nak nak
written by Mala , April 25, 2010 not all persons who attended a same sex school parents are big shots an i truly don't appreciate that comment... I must admit that i was not a big shot nor were the friends that i chose... my mother was a cleaner while some of my friends parents were unemployed or a simple seamstress.... but on the other hand i do agree that a lot of matters are covered up an the prestigious schools need to be exposed as well so that there would b a sense of equity as even more nonsense takes place in same sex schools although it may not be equivalent to the mixed schools
what???
written by Anamar , April 25, 2010 Ok why is it that persons insist on displaying such a private scenario on a public social networking site? If you do what you do that's your business but don't make it everyone else's. Secondly, you disgrace your school by wearing your uniforms- same sex or opposite sex. Think before acting...
what's with the hate?
written by D.L. , April 25, 2010 i don't understand why everyone especially on facebook is bashhing the entire school. I go to a mixed school and there are still homosexual things going on. Fatima doesn't consist of just two fellas even if they are from there.
Just heard about this!
written by Cheri , April 25, 2010 The proposal to establish same sex-schools has nothing to do with the rise in homosexuality! the people and by extension students of trinidad and Tobago are absolutely small-minded to think so. People need to see the good in what the government is attempting to do! Small-mindedness is a sin! Come on people!
We need Jesus!!
written by V , April 25, 2010 wow.. we're living in the last days indeed... Morally and spiritually wrong!! God help this nation to fear you and love you as we once did!!
thank you
written by judy t. , April 25, 2010 Thank you, Colin. It was really reassuring to read such a thoughtful and compassionate response to this situation. I agree with what you said.
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written by Shantie , April 25, 2010 I personally think the sexual act is not the main issue. The problem is that they conducted with such behaviour in their unifom ON the school compound. They are adolescents, and in my book old enough to make their own decisions. They are fully capable of differentiating betwen right and wrong & clearly made their choice however homosexuality has been prevalent in T&T for years. Its nothing new to society. Every1 is only making it a big issue because it is a prestigious school compounded with the fact that it is same sex. I went to a same sex prestige girls school & i had no experience with lesbianism throughout my entire seven year period. A school can not make u GAY!! Thats personally ur choice what ur preference is jus dont feel oh so shamed when it comes out because u were foolish enough 2 video tape & take pics of it. The boys should face their consequences for their actions but at the same time for every1 to move as homophobes & haters is clearly not necessary b/c they are embarassed enough as it is.
u cant blame the same-sex schools
written by ----- dont worry bout dat , April 25, 2010 u cant say dat the same sex schools has its own problems about sexuality. i am a student of sfgc n NEVER have we had such problems, NEVER, u never hear nor c of thid kind os stupidness in sfgc, n qrc, n bishops (d prestige schools). u does hear these things about MIXED/COED schools where children ccant control there hormones n who TRYIN to be POPULAR. which is an issue dat doesnt exist in same sex schools. we dont try to IMPRESS eachother or anything. my lovely principle mrs. mc intosh NEVER let these kinda things even cross our minds. im not sayin mixed schools are bad, im just sayin dat its has its disadvantages. i mean ONCE every 3 years or so, a student of sfgc does get preggers, n dat does b a HUGE scandal, dat we talkin bout for years in advance, im a mixed school, dat NORMAL!! BUT AGAIN IM NOT SAYIN DAT MIXED SCHOOLS ARE BAD!
Typical...
written by bunnie , April 25, 2010 Oh please half of you all negative people have nothing better to do.You learn about something different and because you cannot accept it, you hate it. I question you, are you the one laying with the same sex partner? Really now, leave the children alone. All this talk about "you should go kill yourself" or "I could beat them boi." All these comments on Facebook, why don't you go learn to spell and write properly or go get tested for AIDS? Because I am sure those little children who making up a storm must either have or had a STD,HIV or an unwanted pregnancy. And as for the adults, you too are just as ignorant, I am positive you have made mistakes in your life...the same kinds that make you think "what did i do!?" I've seen comments where people say "God help you" or "you're wrong for being that way"- God created those individuals, the same God who created you. He made them with their ways.People are who they are, leave them let them be when they mean no harm to you. -Stay Open Minded
First Thing First
written by Z , April 26, 2010 Why the hell is form 2 or 3 students engaging in such acts in the first place? Why the hell is students who seemingly looks only 2years or less past primary school age engaging in such acts regardless of homosexual or heterosexual nature?
homosexual
written by T , April 26, 2010 i nt saying wat dey did was right but alyah cah be hating on d boys..if dey gay dey gay dey can't do anything about it... n boys alyah shud nt be doing those kind of things n making videos n putting it on fb where everyone can see it.. it is alyah private business n alyah shud keep it private and nt 4 d whole world 2 see it
Disgusted! Homophobia needs to STOP!
written by Afi , April 26, 2010 I am totally disgusted by the reaction of youth especially on facebook to this incident. Many were calling for the deaths of these boys! What the hell is wrong with leaving persons to be who they are and not judging them for it. TnT as a society needs to step back and say "The homophobia needs to stop!"
well i would have to see it to know what to say
written by shane , April 26, 2010 is it still around..sad for the boys cause they will not be able to handle the ignorance
Think before you speak
written by Danny , April 26, 2010 I am actually ashamed by the comments this event has elicited, especially by supposedly "wise" adults. The real problem here is not same-sex schools; it is the fact that sex education NEEDS to be a priority in our children's curriculum. We "sexualize" our young people daily through different types of media (music = Ramping Shop, and any garbage on MTV/BET) and we expect them, KNOWING they are subject to raging hormones, not to act out? What about co-ed schools in which students have sex in the classrooms after hours? "Bun out de heterosexuals?" Teenagers experiment....this ISN'T new. Thanks to technology, it has been brought to the forefront. I feel sorry for those boys and the stigma they will have to face indefinitely. Hopefully, other people will remain prudent in their actions. It's funny how when a news personality and a Miss Universe candidate are caught in the same type of scandal, it doesn't warrant this kind of backlash. Two boys though? Pressure. Don't let your disgust for homosexuality cloud how you see the bigger picture. I am not even GOING to comment on the "bun out the chi chi" mentality that PERMEATES Trinidad and Tobago. If you are busy judging the lives of gays, lesbians, bisexuals, transgendered and questioning individuals, who is living YOUR life? Study dat. Peace.
Life Down The Drain
written by Antonio Stefan Moore , April 26, 2010 Why would you publish something like that on the internet of all places, where you can be viewed by virtually the entire world. They hsve successfully ruined there whole lives.
Gay Education in Schools
written by GAY STUDENT AT A CO-ED SCHOOL , April 26, 2010 It's about time schools teach sexuality in a broad term, then teach students about being gay without being judgemental.
fatima scandal
written by concerned , April 26, 2010 hey apart from facebook where cn i view dis video. plse gve a link
fatima scandal
written by michelle , April 26, 2010 To all the people out there requesting a copy of this video,you must be mad. Think about it...... are you that sick? and the people out there who calling any boy wearing the uniform FAGOT, GAY OR WHATEVER YOU CALL IT. Come on people remember is 2 boys who felt the urge to do this. You can't go and ridicule an entire school for this utter nonsense. Anybody thought what shame the rest of the boys are feeling, they don't even want to wear the uniform anymore. Is this what education come to now? Blaspheme will get us nowhere.
stop it now
written by jevanna george , April 27, 2010 im fed up of evryone jus lashin out at d boys and d skool..dey made a mistake , i am not supportin wat dey did but at d same time i dont hav anyting against gay ppl..but the younger society only talkin bout bating up d guys and callin al fatima fellas fags and stuff..is dat really necessary...do u tink dat is gonna help d situation....plz tink about wat u do and wat affect it has on ppl..i am sadden wit the way we hav conducted ourselves as d ppl of d future.. we indeed need to change our mind set if we wanna go somewhere in life
WHERE CAN I WATCH THIS VIDEO??
written by PING PING , April 27, 2010 CAN SOMEONE PLEASE TEL ME WHERE CAN I WATCH THIS VIDEO I HAVEN'T SEEN IT YET...
i am not supporting them, but.
written by lezzy , April 27, 2010 it dosen't matter if they have same sex schools or not, point is their are gays out their,and they will do whatever they want to do, beating them or whatever will just make them go into hiding with it, so we need to deal with this very carefully.
i wah see d video
written by don tlk , April 27, 2010 dats it i wah see d video as i o to watch it they remove it :(
how we judge
written by C.Headley , April 27, 2010 i have read what could be a thousand comments on this matter and to me the only wrong acts i could have found was that they did it in school, they were in their uniform and the person who obviously leaked it. we may not agree to their sexual orientation but that does not give us the right to say it was bad or they should be physically harmed. conerning the same sex schools, i have attended girls' school my entire life and i have never had any sexual encounter with a girl. There are gay people every where, in same sex and co-ed schools. Those who blame same sex schools need to do their research properly. I have yet to see two girls kiss but yet we see it in a co-ed school. the way trinidadians are responding to this is very hypocritical in my eyes. we only look to condemn what we do not understand but when we do things wrong we do not like it when the shoe is on the other foot. So before you say anything about them, think that they are people too and i do not think anyone would seriously put themselves in this position if they had a choice.
Respect
written by A.J.U. , April 27, 2010 Im not going to bash them for what they did, but, They should have had Respected their school but most of all RESPECTED THEM SELVES. Thats so wrong on so many levels. Love Peace and Chicken Grease......
This is what u get
written by Demisha Johnson , April 27, 2010 This is what you get when human's natural wants and needs are placed in a box and locked. Boys must be around girls and girls must be around boys to learn how to react and interact with each other. It is very important to get accustom to the opposite sex. When God mad us he did not separate us for a reason.
what kind of animals are we
written by PRAYING ONE , April 27, 2010 Is this the kind of society we have, and you people want better livin conditions. remember the days when you needed someone to be sympatatic to you and the things that you did. Their is something called the folly of youth. LET THEM BE
Not taking sides
written by passer by , April 27, 2010 I am not going to tak esides on this one...what those two guys did were wrong.. but reading the comments that these bigots are posting up have me really furious. Why is this larger than when the two el dorado girls were videotaped kissing? WAS THAT OK? WELL OBVIOUSLY IT SEEMS TO BE . or what about all the other heterosexual things that take place and are covered up or ignored.Let those without sin cast the first stone" i guess u ppl who are commenting are without sin...u ppl are a disgrace...
not sorry for them
written by kdsg , April 27, 2010 I don't care if they were straight or gay.I believe that they are at an age where they should have known better. Why? because they knew DAMN well what they were doing,where they were doing it, what they had on,where they posted it .To top it off even facebook has the option of making your business private and they chose not to do so.So now their business out in the road and people must feel sorry for them...sorry it eh go happen!
Spare a thought
written by Sel Marc , April 28, 2010 I left Fatima College about 9 years ago, I also had the privelege of teaching at said institution for 3 years. I am saddened and disappointed by this unfortunate turn of events as I'm sure most of my schoolmates are as well. But mostly I'm sorry for the boys who still wear the 'grey and khaki'. I can walk about society in relative obscurity but these boys have to deal with a barage of insults and unwarranted villification because of the careless actions of a few. Contrary to popular belief the boys and men of Fatima are not gay, homosexuality was not prevelant at our school, it was NEVER encouraged and and never will be. When we without consideration hurl insults and use this as justification for our hitherto totally implausible accusations we are only doing infinitely more harm than good by now forcing young minds along a path that makes them have to prove there hetherosexuality to society. Let's shelve it. Allow the boys who have exams to focus on their exams and let's open the door to proper discussions to sex education policy in schools.
I'm sorry for them
written by Ee , April 28, 2010 I dont know wat in d hell made them video that.... But if thats how they are, keep it to themselves, That was a very stupid thing to do, dont let everyone kno.... Oh gosh, its wrong eh and worse yet the whole school being blamed for that... I hope they dealing with this in a proper mature way.
Sad indeed...
written by nitendo vinces , April 28, 2010 I left Fatima, that prestigious institution, 20+ years ago. I've read the comments posted and my own feelings/opinions lean towards Colin's compassion and Miss Leading's (nice handle btw)urge to remind our youth that their actions bring consequences (good and bad). To all commentators I say - "Let ye who are without sin cast the first stone". Don't be too hard on "fatima student" - whether his comment was driven by ego or not. There are few things left in this world that a man can feel proud of, and our alma mater is one such bastion. I share his wounded pride, but I feel confident that Fatima's handling of this matter will be exemplary and set a standard for other institutions to follow when faced with a similar dilemma. There is an important element that's been left out of the comments thus far - parents and community. I wonder what influence (or absence of) these elements played in these children's lives? What role did they play in formulating the choices made by these two adolescents? Some responsibility has to be laid at the feet of the parents, and the community that helped raise them, for this act. Why lay all the responsibility on the school? I have no doubt, that schools all over this country are doing everything humanly possible to control students so that they can focus on the prime reason for their attendance - to learn! These schools continue to be plagued with limited resources for delivering an education, especially schools like Fatima who receive a small, meager assistance from our "caring" PNM government. I suppose an investment in P.O.S's skyline will reap greater returns in the future, than in supporting the education system with more than just a "free for all" approach. One insightful commentator called for the school administration to step up, and to take the necessary precautions. I assume that the comment came from an experienced school administrator. Naturally, I was sorely disappointed that they didn't offer a possible solution based on their wealth of experience. Unless school populations have decreased drastically since I attended, I believe that the faculty is vastly out numbered by the student body. There are 900+ students at Fatima College. It's impossible for the faculty to police every single one. Not to mention, they have more important things to do - like teach! Parents are their child's first teachers, especially where morals and life values are involved. The sex education being called for needs to be dispensed by fathers to sons and mothers to daughters. They are perfect for delivering a life lesson on a personal and sensitive subject, in a manner it deserves - personal, and with sensitivity. "It takes a village to raise a child" is a well-known saying. Sadly, Trini culture has evolved away from this such that neighbours, honorary "aunties" and "uncles", are encouraged to mind their own business when it comes to correcting a child's behaviour. This incident is a peek into what our country has become. This does not just reflect on one school, but on this entire nation. People...take heed.
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written by uttrep. , April 30, 2010 all i have to say is these kids didnt think about what they were doing and the consequences they would facE?? if any1 gets a video the puttin it on utube,facebook an twitter i think they shoulve knwn better... come on if they gay lett them keep it to themselves now the entire world knows they gay and they have ppl bashing the school and these guys soo damn young they should think about evrything it is they want in life now.. they made it as porn stars already and well they prob really not smarrt to do sumting an post a video
so wa we gona do about it?
written by Ish , April 30, 2010 This just shows that as we, as a society, change so too do our morals and values. As a student myself, I think more focus should be placed on sexual education. The new stuff like trans and homo should all be discussed. Teens are also in the age where hormones are raging, emotions get in the way, things happen.We are quick to point fingers and place blame. But how does that help us solve out problem? We need to stop pretending we don't have a problem and realize the influence the outside world has on us, the kids to begin with. Maybe its time we wake up from our state of apathy or ignorance and find a solution before this matter really gets out of hand.
are we looking in the wrong direction
written by rosemary , June 23, 2010 The innocence of children is easily corrupted. Did anyone stop for a moment to think about if one these boys or individual boy were sexual molested? I guess not. Do you know that father of one of the boys molested two young girls, which went unreported. This information is only known by the girls' families. I wonder if the son was also one of his victims that could have resulted in his behavior at school. Will we ever know. What is our judicial system doing to protect our young ones. Such a sad and distressing time for all. Write comment
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